Ep. 55 Gail Carriger: The Omega Objection

We’re joined this week by the utterly charming Gail Garriger to talk about her fabulous books, her journey into romance, and her experiences as an archaeologist!

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Ways to listen:

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You can find Gail on her website or follow her on Twitter, Facebook, or Instagram!

Some highlights from our conversation include:

      • How little YA there was when we were growing up and how much better it’s getting
      • What it means to be a whale reader
      • How Soulless came about
      • How she got her start in publishing without an agent
      • Why she crossed over into self publishing
      • Our theories about who ends up doing archaeology and why there are so many who cross over into writing
      • Why Gail loves Middle Kingdom Egypt so much
      • Her friend “Smelly Cat”
      • How she has shifted gears to write contemporary M/M romance
      • All about The Omega Objection, her latest in the San Andreas Shifter series
      • How she drives readers crazy by making them wait for beloved secondary characters to get their love stories
      • How she’s behind on her latest book because she had to sign 10,000 copies of her books at once
      • How frustrated she gets when people dismiss romance
      • “I am almost entirely composed of pet peeves!” -GC
      • “I read alot and I have strong opinions!” -GC

Books mentioned:

Arrow Trilogy by Mercedes Lackey

Judy Blume books

Sweet Valley High books

Paradox trilogy by Rachel Bach (Fortune’s Pawn is Book 1)

Soulless by Gail Carriger

Circe by Madeline Miller

Song of Achilles by Madeline Miller

The Omega Objection by Gail Carriger

Poison or Protect by Gail Carriger

The Suffragette Scandal by Courtney Milan

The Forgotten Beasts of Eld by Patricia A. McKillip

Books by Cat Sebastian

Books by KJ Charles

Books by R. Cooper

For Real by Alexis Hall

The Lightning Struck Heart by TJ Clune

Ep. 52 Kresley Cole and Gena Showalter

We’re joined this week by Kresley Cole and Gena Showalter, bestselling authors of some of our favorite books–and real life besties!  We talk about their upcoming projects, their tortured heroes, kickass heroines, and their epic friendship. You’ll find out about who wants to wear the other one’s skin, the literal shrines they have to each other, and why this game of Fuck/Marry/Kill has a shockingly high body count!

Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

To find out more about Gena, you can check out her website or follow her on Facebook,  Instagram. Or you can find Kresley on her website or follow her on Facebook or Instagram! Sign up for their newsletters!

Highlights and favorite quotes from the episode:

  • “Gena knows how to kill people REAL BAD!” -GS
  • All about Gena’s Gods of War series–spoiler alert, it contains lots of Alpha heroes!
  • How Gena is the heroine of all her books
  • Why Gena’s friends don’t piss her off
  • Why Gena’s new YA series called The Forest of Good and Evil is the hardest to write that she’s ever experienced
  • “I just want one fucking book to flow out of me!” -KC
  • “Let me inspire and excite you!” -GS
  • “It’s like going to war and battling for every word.” -KC
  • How the pressures of audience expectations impacts their writing and how they work past it
  • “When you’re writing, it’s like sanding wood and you can feel the grains that still need to be sanded.” -KC
  • How often there’s synchronisity between their separate projects
  • How their epic friendship began (“Can I lick your face?” “When is she going to lick my face?”)
  • “We are not a tasteful show!” -SH
  • Why writer jealousy is bullshit
  • “By God, you better fucking like your own product…or don’t sell it!” -KC
  • What it’s like writing a storyline that you know will disappoint fans
  • Kresley’s inspiration for the Arcana Chronicles and how she developed it
  • Their hilariously differing responses to killing characters
  • Gena and Kresley’s preferences when it comes to Kresley’s Gamemaker Trilogy
  • What’s coming next in the Immortal’s After Dark series!
  • “Twist our arm!”
  • The Gena shrine
  • “Can my game be Kill/Kill/Kill!?” -GS
  • “So it’s like a praying mantis situation?” -GS
  • “I want to incentivize them for good sex. Bring it or die!” -KC
  • “We emerge as the only survivors…with some very fond memories!”
  • That time they had too much to drink and got lost in Manhattan and ended up in a horse drawn carriage–with Cherry Adair.
  • “You’re my pilot fish ghost!?” -KC
  • “Don’t fuck it up, Cole.” -JN

Books mentioned in this episode:

Wicked and the Wallflower by Sarah MacLean

Shadow and Ice by Gena Showalter

Dreams of a Dark Warrior by Kresley Cole

Captain of All Pleasures by Kresley Cole

Alice in Zombieland by Gena Showalter

Poison Princess by Kresley Cole

Warrior’s Woman by Johanna Lindsey

Darkest Warrior by Gena Showalter

The Master by Kresley Cole

The Player by Kresley Cole

The Professional by Kresley Cole

Books by P.C. Cast

Books by Jill Monroe

Josh and Hazel’s Guide to Dating by Christina Lauren

Ep. 51 Maya Rodale: Duchess by Design

We’re joined by bestselling author, Maya Rodale! We discuss her outstanding new release, Duchess by Design…as well as how she started reading romance, some of the real historical inspiration for her books, why the Gilded Age is so awesome, feminism, and much more!

Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

To find out more about Maya, you can check out her website or follow her on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

Highlights from our conversation include:

  • Listen to Jenny fangirl over her love of Duchess by Design
  • The real historical people and places that inspired the book
  • How Maya was introduced to romance novels and how that led to her publishing a nonfiction book about romance: Dangerous Books for Girls: The Bad Reputation of Romance Novels Explained
  • Why a dress with pockets can change the world
  • What’s coming next in the series
  • What makes the romance genre so powerful and endlessly fascinating
  • How she started writing romance
  • How her husband reads and provides feedback on her books
  • Her amazing fantasyland workspace

Books mentioned in this episode:

Ep. 50 Shayla Black and Lexi Blake: Masters of Menage

We’re joined by Shayla Black and Lexi Blake! They are two bestselling, prolific authors who talk all about their gloriously filthy stories, their writing process, and a slew of random topics!

Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

To find out more about Shayla, you can check out her website or follow her on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram. And Lexi on her website, Facebook or Twitter.

Highlights from our conversation include:

  • Their first experiences going to RWA.
  • How they met and starting working together as part of an accountability writing group and discovered that they were compatible.
  • How they accidentally predicted current events in their Perfect Gentleman series.
  • What their joint writing process looks like.
  • How the Masters of Menage series came about…tequila!
  • Why “traditional menage” felt limiting to them.
  • “Let’s take tropes and make them really dirty!”
  • “She starts a virgin, but it doesn’t last long.”
  • “We’ll just give you more cock. It’s fine.”
  • “He finally did give her his penis, in case you’re wondering…”
  • How their husbands are the backbones of their businesses.
  • How they juggle all their many writing projects.
  • How they deal with writer’s block when their schedule doesn’t have room for it.
  • How their Perfect Gentleman series came about and how they developed it.
  • “Those things can be slippery suckers!”
  • Pickles, clowns, and pranks!
  • Why they don’t want to survive the zombie apocalypse

Books mentioned:

Ep. 46 Alexa Martin: Intercepted

We’re joined by debut author, Alexa Martin and special guest cohost, Maureen Lee Lenker! Alexa chats with us about her book, Intercepted, what it was like being a real life NFL wife, her love of reality TV, and much more!

You can find Alexa on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook! Maureen is on Twitter and Instagram!

Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

Highlights from our conversation:

  • How her husband felt about her writing in his football world
  • How becoming an author is her reclaiming her identity outside of being a wife and mother
  • How #pitchwars ultimately led to her becoming a published author
  • What her revision process looked like and how it led to her getting an agent and a book deal
  • How she hasn’t fully embraced her identity as an author yet and is still battling self doubt
  • Her gateway drug into romance–Fifty Shades!
  • Her relationship with football and how she struggles with the dangers of CTE, the risks to players, and the issues of domestic violence and culture around the sport
  • Some of the downsides of being a professional football player, especially being a football family
  • Her own adorable romance story with her husband
  • Her love of reality TV and how that trickles into her writing
  • What she’s working on next
  • How there can be a target on your back when your husband plays football

Books mentioned in this episode:

Intercepted by Alexa Martin

Crossfire Series by Sylvia Day

Fifty Shades of Grey by E.L. James

Ep. 45 Kennedy Ryan: Block Shot

We’re joined by Kennedy Ryan, a Top 100 Amazon bestseller, to chat about her newest release, Block Shot. We also fan girl over our love of Long Shot and talk about her deeply involved research process for that book and what it taught her about survivors of domestic violence.
Ways to listen:
Listen on Google Play Music

To find out more about Kennedy, you can check out her website or follow her on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter.

Highlights from our conversation include:

      • What inspired her to write something as dark and powerful as Long Shot
      • How she spoke to numerous survivors of domestic violence in an attempt to make the story as authentic as possible
      • All about her newest release, Block Shot, which is a standalone in the same world as Long Shot–it’s enemies to lovers between two competing sports agents!
      • Her other series that includes Flow, Grip, and Still
      • How sometimes the story or ideas just come to her and flow out of her
      • Her efforts to raise autism awareness and her foundation to support families living with autism

Books mentioned in this episode:

Block Shot by Kennedy Ryan

Long Shot by Kennedy Ryan

Grip by Kennedy Ryan

Flow by Kennedy Ryan

Still by Kennedy Ryan

Their Eyes Were Watching God by Zora Neale Hurston

Ep. 44 Helena Hunting: The Good Luck Charm

Our guest this week is New York Times bestselling author Helena Hunting. We chat about her latest release, The Good Luck Charm, what makes second chance romances so compelling, why she loves hockey romances, and so much more!
Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

To find out more about Helena, you can check out her website or follow her on Facebook, Instagram, or Twitter.

Highlights from our conversation include:

      • Her earliest exposure to romance (Sweet Valley followed by Flowers in the Attic)
      • How she thinks she’ll introduce her daughter to romance
      • Her experiences as a high school guidance counselor
      • How she started writing on maternity leave because her daughter wouldn’t sleep
      • Why taking a toddler to the grocery store is like shopping with a friend who’s on acid.
      • All about her newest book, The Good Luck Charm
      • Why hockey is awesome
      • Why she uses running to clear her head
      • Why Belle is kind of a bitch
      • What she’s writing next (finally!)
      • What she does for self care to get a break from her busy writing schedule

Books mentioned in this episode:

The Good Luck Charm by Helena Hunting

Flowers in the Attic by V.C. Andrews

Song of the Lioness by Tamora Pierce

Wicked Lovely Series by Melissa Maar

Twilight by Stepheni Meyer

Pucked Love by Helena Hunting

Pucked by Helena Hunting

Fall on Your Knees by Anne-Marie MacDonald

Fever Series by Karen Marie Moning

A Court of Thorns and Roses by Sarah J. Maas

Ep. 43 Tessa Dare: The Governess Game

Our guest this week is New York Times bestselling author, Tessa Dare, who writes fabulously witty and charming historical romances. We talk about her latest book, The Governess Game, historical lady scientists, and the mating practices of both lobsters and ducks!

Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

You can find Tessa on her website or follow her on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram! Her brand new Facebook group is The Secret Society of Damsels Who Dare!

Highlights from our conversation include:

      • How we accidentally had Tessa play photographer for us without knowing it was her.
      • What it’s like to be readers’ “break in case of emergency author”
      • How authors who claim not to read reviews are lying.
      • Her marvelous new book, The Governess Game!
      • Awesome historical lady scientists.
      • Historical accuracy in historical romance and the concept of “historical rom coms”
      • How history is written by the Victors not the Victorias!
      • Her next book, The Wallflower Wager.
      • The backstory on her Girl Meets Duke series covers.
      • Her worst typo ever.
      • The specifics of lobster sex and why she felt it was the perfect fit for a romance.
      • Duck sex. More about duck sex and genitalia than you ever wanted to know.

Our favorite out of context quotes:

“I don’t know how to write a face eater!”

“Historical lube–how did we get here?”

“I want to tell a duck story that’s not about rape.”

Books mentioned in this episode:

The Governess Game by Tessa Dare

Books by Brenna Aubrey (Tessa Dare’s office mate)

When a Scot Ties the Knot by Tessa Dare

A Week to be Wicked by Tessa Dare

A Lady by Midnight by Tessa Dare

Romancing the Duke by Tessa Dare

The Woman in Cabin 10 by Ruth Ward

Ep. 41 Avery Flynn: Butterface

Our guest this week is USA Today bestselling romance author, Avery Flynn, who chats with us about her previous career as a crime reporter, her transition from writing romantic suspense to writing romantic comedy, and her newest book, Butterface!

You can find Avery Flynn on her website or follow her on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook!
Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

Highlights from our conversation include:

      • How she got started reading romance.
      • Her experiences as a crime reporter.
      • How she embraced her sense of humor in her writing and started writing romantic comedy.
      • How Butterface explores embracing women exactly as they are and how powerful that is.
      • Our mutual obsession with enemies to lovers.
      • The story of the cat Sarah and Jenny had in college who liked to hide in the bathroom and attack men’s genitals.
      • Where her ideas come from.
      • How her career as a romance novelist began.
      • How she juggles motherhood with writing.
      • Why we love Scrivener!
      • How she deals with writer’s block.
      • How she’s grown as a writer and her craft has changed.

Books mentioned in this episode:

Butterface by Avery Flynn

Books by Johanna Lindsey

Books by Jackie Collins

The Charmer by Avery Flynn

Text Me When You Get Home by Kayleen Schaefer

Scoring the Player’s Baby by Naima Simone

The Governess Game by Tessa Dare

Rock Chick by Kristin Ashley

Dangerous Kiss by Avery Flynn

In the Woods by Tana French

Books by Xio Axelrod

Books by Kimberly Kincaid

Books by Robin Covington

Ep. 40 Laurell K. Hamilton: Serpentine

IMG_1272 2.jpgWe’re joined by Laurell K. Hamilton who is the #1 New York Times bestselling author of the Anita Blake and Merry Gentry series. We chat about her newest release, the 26th book in the Anita Blake series, Serpentine. We also chat about polyamory, what research into BDSM looked like in 1997, how she found out she’s allergic to mummies, and much more. She gives us an overview of the world of Anita Blake for readers who haven’t yet read any of the series.

Ways to listen:

Listen on Google Play Music

Highlights from our conversation:

  • How the world has changed in the 25 years she’s been writing the series in terms of feminism, representation, technology, and so much more–and how that has impacted her writing.
  • How social media has changed the world and our interactions with people whose views differ from ours.
  • Why her readers were so distressed when she broke two characters up in the aftermath of 9/11.
  • How she responds to negative fans and the criticism that her series has changed and now has too much sex.
  • Her experiences with polyamory and how it was through research for Anita that she learned about that world.
  • What her research into BDSM looked like in 1997 long before discussions of BDSM were mainstream.
  • Her hilarious first experience in a BDSM club when she knew absolutely nothing.
  • Why you’re safer at a BDSM event than at an average bar.
  • How she learned to balance motherhood with her own identity and her art.
  • Can you be happier?

Books mentioned in this episode:

Serpentine by Laurell K. Hamilton

Guilty Pleasures (First in the Anita Blake Series) by Laurell K. Hamilton

Different Loving by William and Gloria Brame

The Happiness Project by Gretchen Ruben

What You Can Change and What You Can’t by Martin E.P. Singleman

To keep up with Laurell, you can find her on Twitter, Instagram, or Facebook–or on her website.